For TK (which is likely the only offensive Force-power they will attempt to utilize against each other) Windu hasn't matched some of Vader's TK feats, including the following scan: I'm inclined to agree with this. 3/4/2020. He dodged them, rolling and twisting away. Vader has moved so fast he has seemed to teleport, Blitzed someone faster then a Jedi could react, drew his lightsaber faster then thought while deflecting dozen blaster bolts when he was caught of guard,Has waved his lightsaber in a blur and swung it fast enough that the blurring motions appear as nothing but a bright circle, has drawn and swung his lightsaber faster then the human eye could follow, he has deflected fire from an torrent emplacement. Windu has never demonstrated feats of this caliber. Nuci . R2) They both have their lightsabers. Live-action television series. Download 320x240 Darth Vader vs Mace Windu Star Wars Apple Iphone,iPod Touch,Galaxy Ace Wallpaper, Movies Wallpapers, Images, Photos and Background for Desktop Windows 10 MacOS, Apple Iphone and Android Mobile in HD and 4K Also, Mace only beat Palpatine due to a massive amp under the circumstances of their duel. Even then it is widly thought that Palpatine lost on purpose anyways. @earthquake_2123: If you're not able to comprehend what an analogy is, I'm not going to argue with you. @shootingnova: He's more consistent showings involve lifting several trees and moving several boulders. Serious. Destroying battle droids via TK isn't really going to make much of a difference here.... 2. deflecting blaster bolts. Is Dracula a force-sensitive? @shootingnova: Nice, never heard of those. Vader would demolish Windu at his full potential of rage. Why not say 6? Faster than he'd seen anyone move, anyone except Yoda. Two Sideous/Dracula are the strongest of the all the sith/vampires of course Windu is going to be fighting harder than he has in his life, still not an amp. By the way, the notifications are glitching extremely much right now. Mace's speed would be equivalent to Grievous's, so I do think he really isn't above Vader but it legitimately doesn't matter since any speed difference would be absolutely inconsequential. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSiPbXQ1gDU&t=5s. 3:00. 3. He can be as callous and cold and brutal as any sith but still remains in the light. Go. Regarding Windu as the better duelist - what makes you think that? Generating afterimages was something Vader could do years before his prime. In any case, Vader managed to blitz his friend before he knew what was happening. I wouldn't either, since I gave Vader the win a few posts earlier. As I posted earlier - Vader has speedblitzed faster than Ferus Olin could react, and Olin is somebody with decent blaster bolt deflection and general speed/reaction feats: He deflects numerous blaster bolts at a close-range: Vader has generated afterimages with his blade: Vader has drawn his lightsaber faster than thought and swung it imperceptibly quickly: The Dark Lord stepped into the room, scanning it. 1) Those first. @intrepid37: Vader has moved so fast he has seemed to teleport, Blitzed someone faster then a Jedi could react, deflected dozen blaster bolts when he was unexpecting it, he has deflected fire from an torrent emplacement. Depa's lightsaber went to his left hand, to mirror his own in his right, and together they wove a wall across the mouth of the bunker, catching and scattering a flood of blasterfire. Again the two universes do not mesh well. This was because Ahsoka wasn't Vader's mission, retrieving the holocron was. Star Wars Theory explains this in a way I see all too fitting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSiPbXQ1gDU&t=5s. Windu forced Sideous into a corner, he removed his lightsaber and then Palpatine tried to lightning him and Windu redirected it, that was game over and Palpatine realized it and he gave up and put all of his faith in Anakin in a last ditch effort that is what happened. Sort by. @themagicstik: windu wins I just watched the clone wars a week ago. 1. As most of us know, Samuel L. Jackson insists Windu survived his battle with the Emperor in Revenge of the Sith and completely disregards any of the story executives' official statements. A fierce light burned in Mace's eyes. When episode 7 comes and it ignores even more EU stuff people will just ignore that too. Regarding the speed feats - Vader has really done all of that (except of course for fighting Depa, since he never met her in combat). Vastor's mighty arms spasmed and dropped limply to his sides. Windu's use of Vaapad meant that the more powerful a darkside user, the more power it gave him to use against them. http://web.archive.org/web/20051125042817/http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/bts/production/news20000711b.html, "Mace Windu's fighting abilities are second only to Yoda. It's a fairly good feat. Star Wars: Clone Wars - Mace Windu vs Separatist Army. but Mace has also deflected blaster bolts, fought faster than thought, fought invisibly fast, hit Vastor six times before he could blink while simultaneously creating afterimages, kept up with Depa while injured, creating enough blurring trails forming ''webs'', has created multiple blurring trails etc. So I'm not fully sure. The Force moved Mace's hands faster than thought. Durasteel melted, smoke rose from the debris. He did it in TCW, so it should be trustworthy. Beyond that - Vader certainly has speed feats equivalent to Windu. 486 Views. Mace met his end in Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, being killed by Darth Sidious as Anakin Skywalker decided to turn to the dark side. It would be a great fight that's for sure And I'd love to see a beat up, even tougher Windu. He lost to Vastor, if I recall correctly. Must be referring to yourself. Download 540x960 Darth Vader vs Mace Windu Star Wars 540x960 Resolution Wallpaper, Movies Wallpapers, Images, Photos and Background for Desktop Windows 10 MacOS, Apple Iphone and Android Mobile in HD and 4K Windu has generated afterimages and ran at blurring speeds - Vader has similarly killed beings faster than a Jedi could react: It happened before he could get out another word. The reason I bring this fight up is to finally demonstrate Vader's real potential against a real threat. When did this happen? That's impressive - although there's at least one source indicating Dooku could out-duel Windu. Before Luke can join his father's side as a Sith Lord, Darth Vader must ensure no Jedi hermits remain. Vastor threw the other even harder-which only made the inside of that arm connect that much harder with Mace's counter hook. They had a brief skirmirsh in Son of Dathomir (canon comic). 3/4/2020. My point is, we need to know just how powerful Vader can truly be and I think this is the perfect opportunity to demonstrate that. On what little Lucas has said about EU it doesn't support your claim. @cortadew: I'll assume you don't agree with me, so perhaps I might be able to convince you to do so. Begin! @themagicstik: Good then don't. N'oublié pas les ''a voté" - Topic Dark Vador vs Mace Windu du 07-01-2018 09:57:28 sur les forums de jeuxvideo.com 5:45. His attacks consisted of relentless, unpredictable blows, like shots from an autoblaster. 2. Mace paced through it all with relentless calm, his only expression a slight frown of concentration, his blades weaving an impenetrable web of lightning. Darth Vader is way too slow. Even when fighting Ahsoka, he wasn't trying to necessarily kill her, just get her out of the way. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. Feat wise Yoda>>Windu in saber combat (also stated numerous times) and >>>>in force usage. I use the EU - and the animated series is fine in everything, save for the telekinetic feats which are inconsistent with his typical TK feats. At best, he is equal to Maul in raw skill. Also, he kept up with Depa while injured, and Depa has generated afterimages before. Energy beams rained down on the Dark Lord and his soldiers. Also, Dooku is considered to be Mace's equal when it comes to Lightsaber skill. 3:19. Are you sure that's a consistent feat? based on every character’s peak skills and not based who beaten who i would say it would tie between yoda and mace windu and maybe Obi wan in some cases. Honestly, I'm not gonna bother looking through Shatterpoint. Yoda is the master of all forms 1–7. ―Mace Windu. Unless you can show me replicating those feats in another circumstance. The Mandalorian; The Book of Boba Fett; Andor; Obi-Wan Kenobi; Rangers of the New Republic though when you say "over half a dozen", you're attempting to exaggerate the feat a bit. How The Empire LIED About Mace Windu(Canon) - Explain Star Wars. Also I see no reason why the "amp" mentioned in my first point would not work to a lesser degree on Vader who in any case is a lesser opponent than Palpatine, people like to forget Darth Vader was Dark Side for a long time before Luke came around. That's about it. Hitting Vastor six times before he could properly react. Mace Windu will appear in Vader: A Star Wars Theory Fan Series. Vader is good with force tho, but so is Windu. Darth Vader is way too slow. Awesome Combat. I love how people discount the animated series Windu in favor of the movie Windu and ignore movie Vader in favor of EU Vader. Windu felt that everything he had fought for - the Republic, his secret love for civilization, was shattered. I can see Vader doing that, or better. The onlooker is us, while when Mace generated afterimages, Vastor was the onlooker, which makes it more impressive. Darth Vader vs Mace Windu Thread starter Fang; Start date Nov 3, 2007; 1; 2; 3; Next. There's no reason to say Windu wins in the speed department. Since his level of TK on a regular basis seems to be different. He's more consistent showings involve lifting several trees and moving several boulders. two speed feats are admittedly Impressive, however, the one regarding the blaster bolt deflection Is, Even Jedi padawans have little difficulty. Honestly, I'm not gonna bother looking through Shatterpoint,but Mace has also deflected blaster bolts, fought faster than thought, fought invisibly fast, hit Vastor six times before he could blink while simultaneously creating afterimages, kept up with Depa while injured, creating enough blurring trails forming ''webs'', has created multiple blurring trails etc. Mace is not the best duelist. At least a dozen bolts streaked toward Vader himself. Regardless, whether we agree or not with this doesn't matter too much. Likewise, I can point out that Mace would hand Shryne, ANH Kenobi, Dark Woman etc., their asses. What does Dracula have to do with Star Wars. @dccomicsrule2011: Honestly, I'm not gonna bother looking through Shatterpoint,but Mace has also deflected blaster bolts, fought faster than thought, fought invisibly fast, hit Vastor six times before he could blink while simultaneously creating afterimages, kept up with Depa while injured, creating enough blurring trails forming ''webs'', has created multiple blurring trails etc. I'm a bit too tired after today. Anyway, these Jedi were featless. Mace is very reliant on Vaapad and without it he struggled against Asajj Ventress someone a padawan Anakin could beat. This is not a bad feat, but still not too impressive of a sith lord, especially a Darth. Download 3840x2160 Darth Vader vs Mace Windu Star Wars 4K Wallpaper, Movies Wallpapers, Images, Photos and Background for Desktop Windows 10 MacOS, Apple Iphone and Android Mobile in HD and 4K Uh.... the onlooker was somebody with better reaction feats than Vastor..... No, I was referring to Vader generating afterimages in the ANH comic and the RotJ comic. @shootingnova : Are you sure that's a consistent feat? Honestly I don't see how anyone of them could be considered definitely faster then the other. By: Ambidextrous Snake. In all honesty, I consider them quite even in this regard. Mace Windu Windu > Sidious > Vader. For starters, he has fought Dooku as an equal. Lego Star Wars Yoda Chronicles Yoda & Mace Windu vs Count Dooku & Jek-14. He completely unexpected it, yet was still able to defend against the blaster bolts. Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history. That said, he has turned his blade into a shield and thrown his lightsaber around his body to form a shield, and deflected numerous blaster bolts at point-blank range. Uhh.. Straight into his heart. Key word YOU'RE view of it. But where Vastor's speed was blinding, Mace's was invisible. Not what's stated in canon. Faster than an eyeblink. Darth Vader vs Mace Windu. All we've ever seen Vader do is slaughter some rebels which was a piece of cake for him. I'll probably concede the point. General Discussion. Vader would find Windu, they would have an impressive fight. This isn't any regular piece from the EU, but a work that Lucas himself edited and approved of as a supplement to the films - hence it is G-Canon. This obviously just an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it, thanks for reading! Dont let this distract you from Mace Windu blowing a 3 to 1 lead. Don't see how this is remotely close considering Vader eventually surpasses Palpatine and Yoda whereas Mace Windu was always second to Yoda. I mean he has mechanical legs. Because movie vader sux and movie windu "beat" Palpatine. Also lol @ whoever called Silver a fanboy. I believe Windu's motivation would be to find Skywalker and end him for what he did. 1. Mace Windu was a Jedi who was presumably killed when Darth Sidious rose to power. For the most part I would consider the "onlooker" to really be the third-person omniscient narrative. Who wins? Darth Vader vs Mace Windu. There is no source indicating Vader ever surpassed them, and from feats Palpatine easily surpasses Vader, whilst also being stated by numerous sources to be the most powerful Sith Lord in Galactic History. EU is just some kid trying to overpower all the characters he saw growing up in SW. G canon is far more down to earth. @themagicstik: I'm not sure who you are referencing. To understand the combat of these warriors, we must delve into the sacred history of the fabled Seven Forms of Jedi lightsaber combat and look at how these have played out in the Star Wars saga. In any case - even if you disregard the amp - it is still noted that the fight was an impasse. @dccomicsrule2011: Honestly, I'm not the most reliable source of information on SW, so feel free to correct me, but most of those feats are rather unimpressive. Likely Vastor's "blurring speed" would be blurring to us, and I would hold the same value for Windu's. Press J to jump to the feed. @intrepid37: Yeah, the notifications keep renewing the ones I already reviewed earlier. Windu has shown none of that. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. In the same moment, small openings appeared in the walls and ceiling, and hidden blasters fired. Mace sparring with Dooku as an equal can be disputed since Dooku has better dueling feats overall (at least by his prime) and at least one source states Dooku could outduel Windu. 6:22. This motive would persist until he finally gets the Emperor's attention who would send his apprentice, Lord Vader to deal with yet another surviving Jedi. 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