—The Mary Sue has a strict comment policy that forbids, but is not limited to, personal insults toward anyone, hate speech, and trolling.— Have a tip we should know? It’s an excuse for sexism and used by whiny fanboys who aren’t happy that women have power and agency. Characters like Harry Potter, Clark Kent and James Bond haven’t faced tirades from fans for being Mary Sues even though they are highly-powered characters who always save the day and lack obvious flaws. Author Seanan McGuire goes as far as saying that the term Mary Sue “is sexist, belittling, and reduces them in a way that is very rarely applied to their male counterparts”.

The Origins of Mary Sue Not sure I said everything I wanted to say, but I tried. Author Seanan McGuire goes as far as saying that the term Mary Sue “is sexist, belittling, and reduces them in a way that is very rarely applied to their male counterparts”. tips@themarysue.com The phrase “Mary Sue” caught on, but as Smith noted in a 2011 interview, “It wasn’t always used as a derogatory term. It wasn't like this was happening and now I'm powerful and look at me go." Smith was making fun of trends she saw in the fanfiction of the age, and to do this she crafted a parodic protagonist: Lt. Mary Sue. Before you can decide if a character is a Mary Sue, you must first decide what Mary Sue means in this context. Not sure I said everything I wanted to say, but I tried.

The term “Mary Sue” is sexist because it’s a shorthand that people are expected to understand and agree with, without giving the female character the respect of a nuanced discussion. Another author adds that the term “Mary Sue” has “become a broad-brush catchall used to dismiss any competent female character who acts like a protagonist”. The Term Is Inherently Gendered Assuming you can nail down what exactly Mary Sue means, you’ll then run up against how sexist the term is . "A Mary Sue is an idealised and seemingly perfect fictional character. Second, yeah, even I thought this way of thinking was stupid. Go To. It seems as though nothing in this universe except Mary Sue is even real, and is instead a plot device to make Mary Sue seem flawless and loved. "I don't buy the Mary Sue thing anyway. Often, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfilment. It is for all of the reasons listed above that I believe Mary Sue is a sexist concept even though I don’t think that most people who use that phrase are purposefully trying to be sexist.

It is too broad, too imprecise, and used with reckless abandon. 1 2 3 page 1 of 3 Next.

Mary Sue is a popularised term with a clear meaning and a male specific alter, by shifting to a less well known term they more easily dismiss your thoughts (their goal). I find the term sexist in itself because it's Mary Sue. Describing a character as a “Mary Sue” is now interpreted as sexist, even when the grievance is not gender-based. A Mary Sue is a character who is so perfect that he or she warps the world around them to display their perfection. ‘Mary Sue’ isn’t a cleverly developed critical term. Look, I want to start off by saying I like to think of myself as a Feminist and I more then readily acknowledge that sexism is a serious problem in society but people who say, or strongly hint at that the term "Mary Sue" is a sexist term are a big pet peeve of mind. The Term Is Inherently Gendered Assuming you can nail down what exactly Mary Sue means, you’ll then run up against how sexist the term is . The Term Mary Sue has value in critique, however that use has greatly diminished. "When I was doing it … playing her I never felt sure of what was going on. Mary Sue has gone from being a bad writerly choice, to becoming a blanket term with inherently sexist connotations. Why the Term “Mary Sue” Should Be Retired March 10th, 2018 by Oren Ashkenazi. So, there’s this girl. So, there’s this girl.

Sometimes, the name is reserved only for women, but more often the name is used for both genders. Mary Sue, what are you? AegisP Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after 3 .

It’s an excuse for sexism and used by whiny fanboys who aren’t happy that women have power and agency. Jan 8th 2015 at 6:08:36 AM.

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